tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post5859550567885093819..comments2024-03-27T13:28:18.163-04:00Comments on Balter's Blog: That awful New Yorker cover is just so unfair to Obama!Michael Balterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08311614050647338141noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-68910703228833764512008-07-21T06:08:00.000-04:002008-07-21T06:08:00.000-04:00I was impressed that Obama bit his lip when McCain...I was impressed that Obama bit his lip when McCain was on about being more experienced than Obama as a wartime leader. <BR/><BR/>McCain's experience of war was during a war The US lost, and was spent as a prisoner. Great credentials. I guess if anyone in the Obama camp pointed this out it would be considered poor taste and would scuttle his chances of election.terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-47343458612040286942008-07-17T09:09:00.000-04:002008-07-17T09:09:00.000-04:00After 9/11 happened, a huge majority of Americans ...After 9/11 happened, a huge majority of Americans thought 'the Eyerackis done it' following exactly what the Cheneys, Perles and Wolfowitzes wanted them to think, helped a great deal by Fox News and good old Wolf Blitzer at CNN, (an ex-employee of AIPAC). <BR/><BR/>I don't think, bradydale, that the majority of Americans have your good sense, or even have any kind of a sense of irony.<BR/><BR/>They'll see an Islamic nigger, and his 'terrorist left wing' nigger wife on the front cover of one of the most prestigious magazines in the country.<BR/><BR/>The 'ironical' (See? ....I'm only telling everyone they're wrong in thinking this is anything like the truth...) is crap, drawn with such clumsiness and haste that it should have been thrown out when it arrived.<BR/><BR/>The picture editor (for accepting such junk) and the editor of the New Yorker should be given their pink slips immediately. <BR/><BR/>I have, in hand, a cartoon drawn about a senile old fart, serially divorced, whose paternity got him good treatment in Vietnam, after he effed up his naval career by crashing his plane in the wrong place yet again.<BR/><BR/>It will show him and his 'Vietnamese Friend' and at least one of his cancer-victim wives in washed-out scabby water colour. <BR/><BR/>Can you help me flog it to the 'New Yorker'?Richard Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726482358889849398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-39844204191463851762008-07-16T21:38:00.000-04:002008-07-16T21:38:00.000-04:00This whole fight is so tedious. The cover is aweso...This whole fight is so tedious. The cover is awesome. I got the joke as soon as I saw it. I'm going to vote for Obama even if I do think he's a pansy. <BR/><BR/>The joke obviously pokes fun at anyone so silly that they actually think he's a Muslim Extremist and at the notion that one could make it to that high office.<BR/><BR/>I got it as soon as I saw it. I laughed. It's funny. <BR/><BR/>Do people really believe that the people at The New Yorker aren't total Obama supporters? Seriously? This was making fun of the people who called their greeting a "terrorist fist jab." <BR/><BR/>Folks need to get over themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-12457287470511592982008-07-16T11:58:00.000-04:002008-07-16T11:58:00.000-04:00Obama's no saint, and over the next few months you...Obama's no saint, and over the next few months you're going to see him tacking to the middle, the left, right and centre, as he follows his pollsters' advice.<BR/><BR/>That's if something bad doesn't happen to him before the Democratic Convention, so the Mad Woman steps into his place.<BR/><BR/>The New Yorker cover was infantile and disgusting; there wasn't anything satirical about it; it was plain prattish prejudice. <BR/><BR/>I would like to see the New Yorker follow with a similar cover by the same artist (not very good, but the pics should match) that shows a senile ex-POW saying gabba-gabba-gabba to his captors, with a side-bar to tell us how he wants to colonise the Middle East for the next 100 years.<BR/><BR/>The American Project for the Next Century is dead in the water.<BR/><BR/>What's needed is someone who realises that.<BR/><BR/>I don't have much faith in either Obama or McCain.<BR/><BR/>In the rest of the world, we'll just have to put up with whatever stupid things the American Empire does in its last flailings, and hope we don't get too much affected personally.<BR/>best regards<BR/><BR/>Richard Parker<BR/>Siargao Island, Philippines<BR/>www.coconutstudio.com<BR/>http://austronesiancounting.wordpress.com/<BR/>http://smallislandnotes.blogspot.com/Richard Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726482358889849398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-65490180801790399542008-07-16T02:31:00.000-04:002008-07-16T02:31:00.000-04:00Thanks, Anne, I think we're on the same page here....Thanks, Anne, I think we're on the same page here. I guess I think the most appropriate reaction to the New Yorker cover might have been that of Obama, who shrugged his shoulders and said nothing! Or, at most, "wow, what a poor piece of satire." And then get on with the campaign.Michael Balterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08311614050647338141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-76428787138694239792008-07-16T02:06:00.000-04:002008-07-16T02:06:00.000-04:00I saw the David Horsey cartoon this morning. Beca...I saw the David Horsey cartoon this morning. Because I live in Seattle, and so does Horsey, I see a lot of his cartoons a lot of the time. But Horsey is a good satirist. The trouble with the New Yorker cover is, that it just isn't good satire. It was, um, misdirected, if I can put it that way. <BR/><BR/>Responding to your other point about true free speech, I agree with you there, too. All kinds of speech should be protected --- even bad satire like the New Yorker cover. But the problem of people telling others what they should and should not say, actually stems from the far right's "culture wars", when some people scream "political correctness" when they end up hearing something they just don't want to hear. I've seen plenty of examples of this, both on and off the web, the latest being a piece written at the height of the "culture wars", by some librarian, about historical literature for young people. I blogged about it, and if you're interested, you can read the blog piece(though I didn't really get into this angle of it directly at <BR/><B><I>The Writer's Daily Grind</B></I> at http://www.writersdailygrind.blogspot.com.<BR/><BR/>I think it's titled "Good Writing, Bad Writing", and has a link to the actual piece. If you click on the link, you will see the article, and you will see what I mean. <BR/><BR/>Again, just to be sure you don't misunderstand me, I tend to agree with much of what you say, and, as I said, free speech, even "bad" free speech, should be rigorously defended.<BR/>Anne GAnne Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03045500116098233731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-45938102572775174302008-07-15T01:16:00.000-04:002008-07-15T01:16:00.000-04:00Anne, thanks for your comment. I fully understand ...Anne, thanks for your comment. I fully understand why bloggers and other Obama supporters are complaining. My point is that true free speech requires that anyone be able to publish and express themselves in any way they wish, satirically, offensively, or otherwise, and nowadays people spend just too much time telling other people what they should and should not say. It leads to huge hypocrisy, because everyone ends up dishonestly apologizing for saying what they really mean (the Jesse Jackson episode is a good example.) Let everyone say what they want to say, and move on, rather than all this finger wagging and scolding nonstop.Michael Balterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08311614050647338141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3423725371920868922.post-42210775064352176532008-07-14T19:35:00.000-04:002008-07-14T19:35:00.000-04:00Before you criticize bloggers for complaining abou...Before you criticize bloggers for complaining about the latest <B><I>New Yorker</B></I> cover, perhapsy you might want to read this post from Alternet, which explains why they're complaining.<BR/><BR/>http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/91355/?ses=b2db06f9eac297ff1244c609c1a446fc<BR/><BR/>I thinkk the Alternet piece makes a good case. <BR/><BR/>And just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I <B><I>do</B></I> happen to agree with you that everyone who supports Obama for our next president, should go out and do everything they can to get him elected!<BR/>Anne GAnne Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03045500116098233731noreply@blogger.com